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homesickjameswilliamson
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PostSubject: Anyone even notice this?   Mon May 11, 2009 4:15 am





titled "More Power" from cleopatra records

didn't even hear about this one

tracklisting is

1. Tight Pants
2. I'm A Man
3. I Got A Right
4. Money
5. Scene of the Crime
6. Gimme Some Skin
7. Rubber Legs
8. Open Up & Bleed
9. Johanna
10. Cock In My Pocket
11. I'm Sick of You
12. Louie, Louie
13. Head On
14. Cry For Me
15. She Creatures of the Hollywood Hills
16. Born in a Trailer
17. Wild Love
18. Til The End of the Night

anyone have this, any unreleased versions never heard before?

seems to be download only, avaliable on amazonmp3 and itunes
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PostSubject: Re: Anyone even notice this?   Mon May 11, 2009 7:11 pm

Just another collection of the same 1972, 1973 and weird Iggy demos I think. There's SO many of them.
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PostSubject: Re: Anyone even notice this?   Thu May 14, 2009 12:13 am

Did you listen to any of the clips? They are short but if you listen to Head On or Open Up and Bleed the drums sound better than I can remember them sounding on other releases. Is it just me? Can anyone verify what my ears seem to be telling me? I haven't done an A/B test but these seem to sound different than the Easy Action Heavy Liquid box. Anyone care to check out those clips and chime in?
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PostSubject: Re: Anyone even notice this?   Thu May 14, 2009 1:06 am

Larry: I listened to it on Spotify and several songs do have both improved drums and guitar. Almost sounds like if they'v done overdubbing. Rubber legs sounds for example really clear.

Can't compare to Heavy L right now, but what I can remember is that this sounds alot better. Anyone who can, please fill in.
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PostSubject: Re: Anyone even notice this?   Thu May 14, 2009 1:10 am

Presume they must have licensed some of it from Easy Action as Money and Louie Louie haven't been released elsewhere.
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PostSubject: Re: Anyone even notice this?   Thu May 14, 2009 1:14 am

MC: Could be. I think they'v overdubbed some of the music, Head on for example sounds like if the drums was put on top of it.
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PostSubject: Re: Anyone even notice this?   Thu May 14, 2009 1:20 am

had a quick listen and Johanna and Born in a Trailer definitely sound slightly different to versions I've heard before. Cleaner drums?
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PostSubject: Re: Anyone even notice this?   Thu May 14, 2009 1:45 am

Yeah, sounds like the same old stuff, w/ over-dubbed drums & possibly rhythm guitar.

I'm pretty sure Scotty had already nodded-out at that point in 'Born in a Trailer' and the drumming in the sample is a complete overdub. This is heresy on par w/ the Manzarek-esque keyboards on the Funhouse box single.
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PostSubject: Re: Anyone even notice this?   Sat May 16, 2009 5:26 pm

trailerborn: Seriously, some of the overdubb is quite well done. The drums and guitar do blend in quite well in some of the songs, esp Open up and bleed. They'v stuck to the basic drumming sound and the guitarsound sounds like if it was picked up from the demo. Sounds just the right amount of puffed up without straying away from the originals power of raw.
And some stuff is just cleaned up versions, like Scene of crime.

I'm actually thinking of getting my hands on this one.
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PostSubject: Re: Anyone even notice this?   Sat May 16, 2009 8:15 pm

Don't get me wrong, Ill be picking this up too, but the original versions are hard-wired in my head at this point and the overdubs will take some getting used to. I just hope the new drums don't overpower Iggy's monkey-yelps at the end of BIAT too much.
But I also didn't care for the Raw Power re-mix and am a firm believer in the power of tape-hiss, so what do I know?
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PostSubject: Re: Anyone even notice this?   Sat May 16, 2009 8:45 pm

just listened to the samples on amazonmp3, its unbelievable, its like a whole different band, i think i prefer how it sounded before, maybe im just used to it,but the drums are so clear and polished on songs like BIAT and Head on and stuff....just doesnt sound stoogeslike lol
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PostSubject: Re: Anyone even notice this?   Tue Jun 02, 2009 6:31 pm

I am not convinced that this stuff is overdubbed...if it is its really well done!
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PostSubject: Re: Anyone even notice this?   Tue Jun 02, 2009 6:32 pm

Is there anywhere on this site that lists the dates and track lists of rehersal sessions, where does "Money" fit in?
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PostSubject: Re: Anyone even notice this?   Tue Jun 02, 2009 6:47 pm

gazatthebop wrote:
Is there anywhere on this site that lists the dates and track lists of rehersal sessions, where does "Money" fit in?

I believe it was recorded at roughly the same time as "I Got A Right", "Gimme Some Skin", "I'm Sick Of You" and "Scene Of The Crime".
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PostSubject: Re: Anyone even notice this?   Tue Jun 02, 2009 6:59 pm

gazatthebop wrote:
Is there anywhere on this site that lists the dates and track lists of rehersal sessions, where does "Money" fit in?

Is that the same as the one on Heavy Liquid disc 1 which was recorded at Olympic Studios in July 1972 (according to my ipod)?
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PostSubject: Re: Anyone even notice this?   Tue Jun 02, 2009 7:17 pm

Makes sense, the "Heavy Liquid" box is about the only one i don't have. Does anyone know an mp3 link so i can listen to the box before purchase? Thanks in advance!
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PostSubject: Re: Anyone even notice this?   Tue Jun 02, 2009 7:44 pm

"More Power" sounds better in my hears "Cock in my pocket" is great I must buy it Love


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PostSubject: Re: Anyone even notice this?   Tue Jun 02, 2009 8:12 pm

freemind wrote:
Gaza => http://www.amazon.co.uk/More-Power/dp/B002742SZ2/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&s=dmusic&qid=1243960392&sr=8-3

It's sounds better in my hears "Cock in my pocket" is great I must buy it Love

I have and recommend "More Power" but was looking for a mp3 link to "Heavy Liquid" (thanks)
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PostSubject: Re: Anyone even notice this?   Tue Jun 02, 2009 8:16 pm

oups sorry I search
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PostSubject: Re: Anyone even notice this?   Tue Jun 02, 2009 9:58 pm

This is really weird.

I must admit that at first I couldn't believe some of the above posts. Would a reissue of this same old stuff (again!!!) really have overdubs added? All the tracks are available on the Heavy Liquid set, in the same old questioanble quality that we've been used to for years. The first few samples I heard sounded just like the same tracks I've heard millions of times, but then... WTF!!!

Where the hell did those drums come from on "Head On" and "Born In A Trailer"? I've just gone back and listened again to the samples and quite definitely these two have been tampered with. I barely recognised "Trailer". Not sure about some of the others - "Open Up And Bleed" sounds pretty much like it always did though perhaps a little cleaner. It's hard to tell from some of the other samples without a direct comparison which I've not had time to do. Maybe later.

But why would anyone add stuff to old Stooges demos, for some cheapo reissue of stuff we've all got already? And who did it? It's interesting that the added drums on the short samples don't sound that different from what Scott could do. Did he overdub drums? I still can't figure out why anyone would do this though.

Anyone know anything for sure?

Cheers,

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PostSubject: Re: Anyone even notice this?   Tue Jun 02, 2009 11:07 pm

I've sent an email to Cleopatra records about this so I'm waiting for a reply and will post whatever is sent back Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Anyone even notice this?   Tue Jun 02, 2009 11:09 pm

Quick work! - I wonder what they'll say?
Cheers,
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PostSubject: Re: Anyone even notice this?   Tue Jun 02, 2009 11:25 pm

Thank you G, F#, E Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Anyone even notice this?   Wed Jun 03, 2009 2:51 am

i cant remember if i've already posted this, but for those living in the UK and i think some parts of Europe, you can listen to the whole album for free on Spotify
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PostSubject: Re: Anyone even notice this?   Wed Jun 03, 2009 11:22 am

Yes, that is true homesick!... but you have to for serach Iggy Pop, NOT The Stooges!

The songs sound so diffrent, with better quality!
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