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PostSubject: "Dirt" cover by marilyn manson   Mon Aug 31, 2009 2:39 am

Has anybody here seen this on youtube?
It was live from Buenos Aires in 1996.

Although I don't listen to manson, I gotta say this was a great cover. Very brutal. Stooges fans would approve.


It got deleted from youtube so I got no link Crying or Very sad
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PostSubject: Re: "Dirt" cover by marilyn manson   Mon Aug 31, 2009 2:43 am

doesnt suprise me that they covered dirt.

mr. manson used to be the smartest guy in the room...now hes just a big baby.

thats sad.
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PostSubject: Re: "Dirt" cover by marilyn manson   Mon Aug 31, 2009 7:52 am

Oh......I really would have LOVED to see that!

Dirt is one of my fav Stooge songs! Too bad Manson has gone down the toilet......one of my friend says he needs to be saved from himself!

Drugs have diggin its fangs deep into him and not letting go.....been an on going problem for years......
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PostSubject: Re: "Dirt" cover by marilyn manson   Mon Aug 31, 2009 10:03 am

PineappleExpress wrote:
Has anybody here seen this on youtube?
It was live from Buenos Aires in 1996.

Although I don't listen to manson, I gotta say this was a great cover. Very brutal. Stooges fans would approve.


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thanks for the alert, PineappleExpress Smile it does sound kinda interesting -but 'Dirt' shouldn't sound 'brutal' in my opinion.
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PostSubject: Re: "Dirt" cover by marilyn manson   Tue Sep 01, 2009 12:32 am

Well, Ron's playing on the original goes from very brutal in parts (sounds like he bent the strings almost to breaking point a couple of times) to almost dreamlike in the (for want of a better word) chorus sections. He really goes between 2 extremes on Dirt. Nobody else is gonna get near duplicating that sound - but, that can be said for everything Ron played.
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PostSubject: Re: "Dirt" cover by marilyn manson   Tue Sep 01, 2009 1:58 am

I agree and I think the lyrics are very intense also.
I remember reading it was Dave who wrote this song, is ths true?

Too bad Iggy fired him, he was a great bassist.


Rest in Peace Dave
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PostSubject: Re: "Dirt" cover by marilyn manson   Tue Sep 01, 2009 2:54 am

i know dirt was apparently ron asheton's fav. song to play. he refused to play it with other folks outside of the stooges (most notably the wild ratttz)...simply because, according to him, no one else could play it correctly other than himself/the stooges.

it is an interesting song.
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PostSubject: Re: "Dirt" cover by marilyn manson   Tue Sep 01, 2009 4:43 am

sway wrote:
i know dirt was apparently ron asheton's fav. song to play. he refused to play it with other folks outside of the stooges (most notably the wild ratttz)...simply because, according to him, no one else could play it correctly other than himself/the stooges.

it is an interesting song.

So some or all of the rest of The Wylde Ratttz wanted to cover Dirt? Is this from an interview somewhere?
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PostSubject: Re: "Dirt" cover by marilyn manson   Tue Sep 01, 2009 8:13 am

it "IS" an interesting.....song!

It's beautiful......dreamy....brutal....freeing......damaged....sexy....the composition and Ron's playing is fantastik.....
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PostSubject: Re: "Dirt" cover by marilyn manson   Tue Sep 01, 2009 11:23 am

I can never think of this song as brutal. Brutal means the opposite of lyrical to me and this song is fantastically lyrical throughout. it's literally incredible the amount of feeling Ron gets on it. Still, that's Ron for you.

I can't think of Ron's playing as being brutal on any song actually, the word, to me, implies a lack of imagination and unimaginative is the very last thing Ron's playing was. Unfortunately the same can't be said of a lot of other guitarists down the years.
ok time to stop rambling.
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PostSubject: Re: "Dirt" cover by marilyn manson   Tue Sep 01, 2009 4:35 pm

Great tune. Supposedly Nick Cave did a cover (early post-BP solo career). Ronnie Urini & the Last Poets did a fantastic cover (in Swedish) in the early 80's.

The bassline/drums used to be much loved by newbie garage musicians (like I was) who want to leap right to the 'cool / badass' despite having zero chops.
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PostSubject: Re: "Dirt" cover by marilyn manson   Tue Sep 01, 2009 7:49 pm

my interpretation of brutal "in this instance"......is a moving emotion that inspires......

I will have to find Nick Cave's cover!
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PostSubject: Re: "Dirt" cover by marilyn manson   Tue Sep 01, 2009 8:14 pm

How come nobody likes Manson? I think he's swell. He puts on a delightful live show. Smile I always get my money's worth. Of all the low down trash on Youtube why would they take this gem off? Wish I could have seen it.
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PostSubject: Re: "Dirt" cover by marilyn manson   Wed Sep 02, 2009 1:03 pm

Rob Gallucci wrote:
sway wrote:
i know dirt was apparently ron asheton's fav. song to play. he refused to play it with other folks outside of the stooges (most notably the wild ratttz)...simply because, according to him, no one else could play it correctly other than himself/the stooges.

it is an interesting song.

So some or all of the rest of The Wylde Ratttz wanted to cover Dirt? Is this from an interview somewhere?

actually...i seem to remember it being mentioned in an interview w/ ron himself. i could be wrong (esp. considering that im a big fan of most of the wylde rattts other bands).
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PostSubject: Re: "Dirt" cover by marilyn manson   Wed Sep 02, 2009 9:00 pm

Nadja wrote:
I can never think of this song as brutal. Brutal means the opposite of lyrical to me and this song is fantastically lyrical throughout. it's literally incredible the amount of feeling Ron gets on it. Still, that's Ron for you.

I can't think of Ron's playing as being brutal on any song actually, the word, to me, implies a lack of imagination and unimaginative is the very last thing Ron's playing was. Unfortunately the same can't be said of a lot of other guitarists down the years.
ok time to stop rambling.

yeah, you're right the original version isn't brutal but manson's was the vocals were more intense.
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PostSubject: Re: "Dirt" cover by marilyn manson   Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:55 pm

The original's far better in vocals and playing. This cover was done by The Spooky Kids (who were pretty ace), when Brian wasn't an attention whoring twat.
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PostSubject: Re: "Dirt" cover by marilyn manson   Tue Sep 08, 2009 1:12 am

sway wrote:
i seem to remember it being mentioned in an interview w/ ron himself.

You're right - I found it reading the Perfect Sounds Forever interview again.

Btw - regarding the other question asked above about Dave writing "Dirt" - in the same interview Ron mentions that the song was built around the starting point of Dave's bassline (as was "Fun House.")
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