Number of posts: 201 Age: 40 Location: France Registration date: 2009-06-07
Subject: Search and Destroy mixes Sat Dec 04, 2010 6:35 pm
OK, we've already been through this endlessly, but for newcomers who don't want to go through the 11 pages of the "Embassy Reels" thread (http://stoogesforum.freeforumboard.net/jesus-loves-the-stooges-f1/raw-power-embassy-reels-t2124.htm?highlight=embassy), I summed things up with 1 minute music samples of the various S&D mixes available.
- Original US LP, Bowie Mix, the one we know & love/hate:
- Original UK LP, aka Embassy mix (Iggy original mix?). On CBS 1973 UK first pressing and on "some" Embassy 1977 UK reissues (This one should have been on Raw Power Sony 2010 reissue):
- 1997 Iggy remix (also on 2010 reissue):
- Rough Power EP (Bomp!) sounds like Bowie mix (to my ears) with poor sound quality:
- Shake Appeal bootleg, "1972 stooges mix" excellent alternate/early mix, but very hissy.
- Duet At The Mantra (Iggy) bootleg, "1972 stooges mix", same as above, but far too much no-noised.
- Garden Of Evil (Iggy) bootleg, "1972 stooges mix". This one should have been on Raw Power Sony 2010 reissue.
Luzern
Number of posts: 159 Registration date: 2009-01-13
Subject: Re: Search and Destroy mixes Sat Dec 04, 2010 11:08 pm
Hey, thank you! This is how it should be done!
I have always liked the "Bowie mix" best. But it's very interesting to compare the different mixes! Did you take the "1997 Iggy remix" from vinyl? It seems to sound a little smoother than the 1997 CD, which I think sounds way too harsh. Have you compared 1997 remix CD and 1997 remix LP?
jpstooges
Number of posts: 201 Age: 40 Location: France Registration date: 2009-06-07
Subject: Re: Search and Destroy mixes Sun Dec 05, 2010 12:36 am
Luzern wrote:
Hey, thank you! This is how it should be done!
I have always liked the "Bowie mix" best. But it's very interesting to compare the different mixes! Did you take the "1997 Iggy remix" from vinyl? It seems to sound a little smoother than the 1997 CD, which I think sounds way too harsh. Have you compared 1997 remix CD and 1997 remix LP?
Subject: Re: Search and Destroy mixes Sun Dec 05, 2010 12:52 am
Hi, thanks for doing that, I'd like to add my latest mix , I hope the link will not be dead that quickly. I wonder why the sword-crashing sounds are not in the "guitar hero" multitracks, are they lost forever?
Luzern
Number of posts: 159 Registration date: 2009-01-13
Subject: Re: Search and Destroy mixes Sun Dec 05, 2010 2:14 am
jpstooges wrote:
Luzern wrote:
Hey, thank you! This is how it should be done!
I have always liked the "Bowie mix" best. But it's very interesting to compare the different mixes! Did you take the "1997 Iggy remix" from vinyl? It seems to sound a little smoother than the 1997 CD, which I think sounds way too harsh. Have you compared 1997 remix CD and 1997 remix LP?
What do you think about the whole album (not just "S&D")? I have the Bowie mix on original Columbia US vinyl and the Iggy remix on CD. I prefer the Bowie mix. Is the 2010 double vinyl (remastered Bowie mix and Iggy remix) worth getting? Especially on "Gimme Danger" for example the mystery of the Bowie mix is completely lost on the Iggy remix (at least on CD).
Luzern
Number of posts: 159 Registration date: 2009-01-13
Subject: Re: Search and Destroy mixes Sun Dec 05, 2010 2:16 am
zickafuce wrote:
Hi, thanks for doing that, I'd like to add my latest mix , I hope the link will not be dead that quickly. I wonder why the sword-crashing sounds are not in the "guitar hero" multitracks, are they lost forever?
I like it. Thank you!
StoogeFan
Number of posts: 37 Registration date: 2010-03-19
Subject: Re: Search and Destroy mixes Fri Jan 07, 2011 6:55 am
Thanks for posting all the different mixes JPStooges.
Is there any chance you could upload the Garden of Evil boot. That would be awesome!
jpstooges
Number of posts: 201 Age: 40 Location: France Registration date: 2009-06-07
Subject: Re: Search and Destroy mixes Fri Jan 07, 2011 9:26 am
StoogeFan wrote:
Thanks for posting all the different mixes JPStooges.
Is there any chance you could upload the Garden of Evil boot. That would be awesome!
Check bootleg section.
PineappleExpress Pumpin' for Jill
Number of posts: 164 Age: 18 Location: Canada Registration date: 2009-06-04
Subject: Re: Search and Destroy mixes Fri Jan 07, 2011 10:19 am
"Duet At The Mantra" is pretty good actually
andrius
Number of posts: 15 Registration date: 2011-01-21
Subject: Re: Search and Destroy mixes Sun Feb 27, 2011 11:58 pm
sorry, should not have...
mr.datsun
Number of posts: 143 Location: London England UK Registration date: 2010-03-24
Subject: Re: Search and Destroy mixes Tue Mar 01, 2011 11:19 am
jp, you did it. Great job! All that confusion cleared up in one posting! I don't know how on Earth you achieved it but you even made that Iggy remix sound listenable.
The trick now is to go through them and click and play them all simultaneously – for the megatron S&D mix.
[Just to be contrary, I still think that the No. 2 Uk version is the Carrot Top mix...]
jpstooges
Number of posts: 201 Age: 40 Location: France Registration date: 2009-06-07
Subject: Re: Search and Destroy mixes Tue Mar 01, 2011 11:26 pm
mr.datsun wrote:
you even made that Iggy remix sound listenable.
...that's because it's from the vinyl version, not the awfull CD.
mr.datsun wrote:
The trick now is to go through them and click and play them all simultaneously – for the megatron S&D mix.
I mixed the US, UK & Ig altogether [WARNING: after hearing this, you may think the Weirdness is not that bad]:
I already found the appropriate cover for this never-heard-before-unreleased-digitally-mastered-2011 mix:
TED A funhouse boy will steal your heart away
Number of posts: 805 Location: Camden Town London UK Registration date: 2007-06-25
Subject: Re: Search and Destroy mixes Wed Mar 02, 2011 6:28 am
Love the cover jp, would look fantastic on a t shirt too
ChuckN
Number of posts: 237 Age: 34 Location: Norway Registration date: 2009-10-30
Subject: Re: Search and Destroy mixes Wed Mar 02, 2011 6:36 am
Looks futuristic JP, both sound and picture. Nice one!
jpstooges
Number of posts: 201 Age: 40 Location: France Registration date: 2009-06-07
Subject: Re: Search and Destroy mixes Wed Mar 02, 2011 9:32 am
TED wrote:
Love the cover jp, would look fantastic on a t shirt too
ChuckN wrote:
Looks futuristic JP, both sound and picture. Nice one!
You both are kidding, aren't you? Seriously, it sounds dreadful and the artwork is ugly (on purpose). I was too lazy to make a fake title on cover but "Metallic Fart" seemed appropriate!
mr.datsun
Number of posts: 143 Location: London England UK Registration date: 2010-03-24
Subject: Re: Search and Destroy mixes Wed Mar 02, 2011 8:32 pm
jpstooges wrote:
mr.datsun wrote:
you even made that Iggy remix sound listenable.
...that's because it's from the vinyl version, not the awfull CD.
Well , I knew people said it was better but I didn't know what a difference it would make. The person who mastered that CD appeared to be psychologically deaf.
Cover: Iggy as The Silver Surfer? Well, it's fitting only in that Iggy had silver hair in that period. I think he's probably too grounded in the street to ride the cosmos on a surf board.
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Looks futuristic JP, both sound and picture. Nice one!