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Do you think Iggy and The Stooges should record a new LP?
Yes!
86%
 86% [ 42 ]
No!
6%
 6% [ 3 ]
Don't care.
8%
 8% [ 4 ]
Total Votes : 49
 

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PostSubject: Who wants a new Stooges album and why?   Fri Jan 28, 2011 11:31 pm

I've heard the Stooges were about to record their 5th LP when Ron died.
I'd like to know the opinion of fans about this idea of recording a new disc.
To me, it's clearly "YES!"

Sure, The Weirdness is weak, but I don't care. I want them to record a new LP, further more with James on guitars!
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PostSubject: Re: Who wants a new Stooges album and why?   Fri Jan 28, 2011 11:42 pm

Yes! But I'd be there the Raw Power Material (Cock In My Pocket, Open Up and Bleed) and I think it would be enough 8 songs on album

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PostSubject: Re: Who wants a new Stooges album and why?   Sat Jan 29, 2011 12:31 am

I think exactly the same.
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PostSubject: Re: Who wants a new Stooges album and why?   Sat Jan 29, 2011 12:55 am

Speculate on the evolution of the material between Raw Power and Kill City, add Rock Action to the mixture plus Watt's 800MPH rapidity with McKay's righteous fill, and thirty five years of "wising up." Damn, this is going to be fine material. Twisted Evil
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PostSubject: Re: Who wants a new Stooges album and why?   Sat Jan 29, 2011 3:08 am

It's not impossible for the Stooges to make a good album, even though "The Weirdness" was a failure. The songs are good. If Iggy can put a little bit of effort into his vocals and Steve Albini is elsewhere, count me in!
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PostSubject: Re: Who wants a new Stooges album and why?   Sat Jan 29, 2011 3:26 am

I'd like new songs, I'd like some quality recordings of the vintage post-Raw Power cuts, I'd like to hear what they where working on at the time of Ron's passing... And I like the Weirdness. I don't love it, but I like it, so I'm not too scared of them putting out a shamefull record.


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PostSubject: Re: Who wants a new Stooges album and why?   Sat Jan 29, 2011 3:50 am

I would love a 71 era recording. still think they could do a decent "You want my action", and hoping for a "Fresh Rag"
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PostSubject: Re: Who wants a new Stooges album and why?   Sat Jan 29, 2011 11:38 am

I would like them to record the 1971 and detroit rehearsal songs in good quality
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PostSubject: Re: Who wants a new Stooges album and why?   Sat Jan 29, 2011 2:14 pm

We'll I would love to see them do it. I just want them to take their time and do it right. I was very disappointed with the Weirdness. I thought it sounded like they were trying too hard to make a "punk" album that 15 year old mall rats might like. Make a fuckin' Stooges album. Iggy is still capable of coming up with good ideas. I'm sure James will do something cool and also pull out what Ron was working on before he died. If they can come up with the best blend of those 3 they should be fine. And let's face it, M. Watt is more than capable. Give him some say too. Then record the band so they kick. Make Scotty's drums BIG. It's gotta have memorable songs and riff's. I hate to say it, I just found the Weirdness flat and dull.
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PostSubject: Re: Who wants a new Stooges album and why?   Sat Jan 29, 2011 2:49 pm

a) they could record the 1971 songs (would be great)
b) they could record the "lost" 1973/74 songs (Open Up And Bleed etc.) (would be great)
c) new songs (?)

But I only want them to release a new album if it stands up to the first three albums. Unfortunately The Weirdness was not good. I think the only "great" song on it is "Passing Cloud".

They have great songs to choose from (a + b), but they need to get the sound right. The Weirdness does not sound like The Stooges. But if they do something now, James will probably oversee engineering and production and I think he'll get it right.
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PostSubject: Re: Who wants a new Stooges album and why?   Sat Jan 29, 2011 3:26 pm

Luzern,

d) all three options! double album, one punky one bluesy disc
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PostSubject: Re: Who wants a new Stooges album and why?   Sat Jan 29, 2011 3:29 pm

I like the idea James was talking about, releasing several singles or maybe an EP.
Start slowly and see where it goes. Unsure
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PostSubject: Re: Who wants a new Stooges album and why?   Sat Jan 29, 2011 4:08 pm

[quote="TED"]I like the idea James was talking about, releasing several singles or maybe an EP.
Start slowly and see where it goes. :unsure: [/quote]

I agree, that would probably be the best way to go.
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PostSubject: Re: Who wants a new Stooges album and why?   Sat Jan 29, 2011 11:50 pm

i've said this many times: a couple of 71' songs (big time bum and you don't want my name, for instanse), some pre-raw power material (scene of the crime, sick of you, i got a right, gimme some skin), open up and bleed, head on and 1 or 2 new songs... 'cos you know, nobody likes new songs... 11, 12 songs would make a perfect album
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PostSubject: Re: Who wants a new Stooges album and why?   Sun Jan 30, 2011 11:16 am

rabid_fish wrote:
i've said this many times: a couple of 71' songs (big time bum and you don't want my name, for instanse), some pre-raw power material (scene of the crime, sick of you, i got a right, gimme some skin), open up and bleed, head on and 1 or 2 new songs... 'cos you know, nobody likes new songs... 11, 12 songs would make a perfect album

A couple of those unrecorded '71 songs, Open Up And Bleed, Head On and maybe Rubber Legs yes, but not Sick Of You, I Got a Right or Gimme Some Skin. The demo versions are murderous, and I don't think they can be bettered.

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PostSubject: Re: Who wants a new Stooges album and why?   Sun Jan 30, 2011 2:49 pm

One people voted "No!".
I would be curious to know why.
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PostSubject: Re: Who wants a new Stooges album and why?   Tue Feb 01, 2011 9:54 pm

I would love to hear the 1971 songs, Raw Power Era songs would be great too, although we already have most of them in good/great quality.
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PostSubject: Re: Who wants a new Stooges album and why?   Tue Feb 01, 2011 10:42 pm

There's no way we'll get an instrumental album, so unless Iggy writes decent lyrics and works on his voice then no.
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PostSubject: Re: Who wants a new Stooges album and why?   Sun Feb 06, 2011 2:34 am

Sorry but no. I don't think bands should reform years after the event. The Stooges existed between 1968 and 1973. They made 3 great studio LPs. We don't need that legacy further diluted. They are not the same people they were then, times have changed and there is no point trying to recapture that era, that mood and that attitude. What's past is past. If they could find a way of addressing the problem of being a rock band at their time of life in a fresh, amusing or poignant way then it might be interesting. Just do something new.
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PostSubject: Re: Who wants a new Stooges album and why?   Sun Feb 06, 2011 11:22 am

Hmmm…not sure I want to hear "The Weirdness 2", especially if it comes as a $150 super-deluxe edition, with 3CD (1CD with unplugged versions of album tracks & 1CD with previously released tracks, but digitally remastered and remixed by punk rock icon Billy Idol), 2 180g LPs & 1DVD (with one hour long unreleased interview with Henry Rollins, telling us why the stooges are great), a 40 pages essay by a famous rock critic and with the ultimate fan gift: a real sample of Iggy orange skin. Produced by Phil Collins.
I'm not being nice here, sorry.
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PostSubject: Re: Who wants a new Stooges album and why?   Sun Feb 06, 2011 12:10 pm

[quote="jpstooges"]Hmmm…not sure I want to hear "The Weirdness 2", especially if it comes as a $150 super-deluxe edition, with 3CD (1CD with unplugged versions of album tracks & 1CD with previously released tracks, but digitally remastered and remixed by punk rock icon Billy Idol), 2 180g LPs & 1DVD (with one hour long unreleased interview with Henry Rollins, telling us why the stooges are great), a 40 pages essay by a famous rock critic and with the ultimate fan gift: a real sample of Iggy orange skin. Produced by Phil Collins.
I'm not being nice here, sorry.
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I don't want these things either. Or anything similar.
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PostSubject: Re: Who wants a new Stooges album and why?   Sun Feb 06, 2011 12:32 pm

jpstooges wrote:
Hmmm…not sure I want to hear "The Weirdness 2", especially if it comes as a $150 super-deluxe edition, with 3CD (1CD with unplugged versions of album tracks & 1CD with previously released tracks, but digitally remastered and remixed by punk rock icon Billy Idol), 2 180g LPs & 1DVD (with one hour long unreleased interview with Henry Rollins, telling us why the stooges are great), a 40 pages essay by a famous rock critic and with the ultimate fan gift: a real sample of Iggy orange skin. Produced by Phil Collins.
lol!
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PostSubject: Re: Who wants a new Stooges album and why?   Sun Feb 06, 2011 3:08 pm

mr.datsun wrote:
Sorry but no. I don't think bands should reform years after the event. The Stooges existed between 1968 and 1973. They made 3 great studio LPs. We don't need that legacy further diluted. They are not the same people they were then, times have changed and there is no point trying to recapture that era, that mood and that attitude. What's past is past. If they could find a way of addressing the problem of being a rock band at their time of life in a fresh, amusing or poignant way then it might be interesting. Just do something new.

I do see what you mean, and I kinda agree with you.
But I won't be enjoying less listening to "Raw Power" or "Fun House", just because they released a LP even worse than "The Weirdness".
That "legacy thing" is really common about the bands that reunite, but to me it sounds like a false argument.
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PostSubject: Re: Who wants a new Stooges album and why?   Mon Feb 07, 2011 3:26 am

951Sib wrote:
mr.datsun wrote:
Sorry but no. I don't think bands should reform years after the event. The Stooges existed between 1968 and 1973. They made 3 great studio LPs. We don't need that legacy further diluted. They are not the same people they were then, times have changed and there is no point trying to recapture that era, that mood and that attitude. What's past is past. If they could find a way of addressing the problem of being a rock band at their time of life in a fresh, amusing or poignant way then it might be interesting. Just do something new.

I do see what you mean, and I kinda agree with you.
But I won't be enjoying less listening to "Raw Power" or "Fun House", just because they released a LP even worse than "The Weirdness".
That "legacy thing" is really common about the bands that reunite, but to me it sounds like a false argument.

I understand the 'false argument' argument but I see it like this.

At a certain point it is possible that all the best recorded moments of a band's career become overshadowed or rather outnumbered by inferior or even 'worthwhile' releases and recordings. Let's say that for every good Lp there are 3 or more not so good LPs. I think that then the band's core and commonly agreed best work becomes harder to identify in a growing catalogue of 'produce'. I sometimes wonder how people new to the scene work out where to start or decide that on reflection , in the light of this, or that not-so-good Lp or Cd, the band may not be so interesting after all.

Sometimes a band can work through this problem and after 30 years of continued work with a much larger number of commonly agreed good work compared to not-so-well-thought-of work their legacy can still stand up. Or the band change direction so much that we in retrospect and after a long long time see them in a completely new light that complements the legacy of the first two or three so-called 'great' works. I think that reforming after some donkey's years and making one average even unexciting LP is not what i have in mind by this latter thought.

In agreement with your sentiment, and on a similar personal level, yes I still have The Stooges, Fun House and Raw Power and can happily ignore everything else, which i will do.
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PostSubject: Re: Who wants a new Stooges album and why?   Tue Feb 08, 2011 2:22 am

mr.datsun wrote:
At a certain point it is possible that all the best recorded moments of a band's career become overshadowed or rather outnumbered by inferior or even 'worthwhile' releases and recordings.

Has this already happened to the stooges with all of the bootlegs of varying quality out there?
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