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PostSubject: How about a Stooges Song Guide?   Sun Feb 06, 2011 11:04 am

I don't know if it already exists, but a Stooges Song Guide would be very helpful not to be confused about song mislabels, alternate/working titles, availability on bootlegs, etc.

What do you think about that?
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PostSubject: Re: How about a Stooges Song Guide?   Sun Feb 06, 2011 3:34 pm

Yep, I think it is a great idea. If someone or a few of you are willing to help eachother make one I will gladly make it a sticky topic once it has been typed up.

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PostSubject: Re: How about a Stooges Song Guide?   Tue Feb 08, 2011 2:11 am

If you type "Stooges discography" into Wikipedia you get a pretty complete list of songs and their working titles. Not their availability on bootlegs etc though.

EDIT: My mistake it's been deleted, I made a pretty complete list of commonly confused songs and alternate titles but its gone.
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PostSubject: Re: How about a Stooges Song Guide?   Tue Feb 08, 2011 8:56 am

It will never get deleted off the forum, and the one on the forum will be more accurate.

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PostSubject: Re: How about a Stooges Song Guide?   Tue Feb 08, 2011 4:20 pm

951Sib wrote:
I don't know if it already exists, but a Stooges Song Guide would be very helpful not to be confused about song mislabels, alternate/working titles, availability on bootlegs, etc.

What do you think about that?

I've made a Iggy Pop Song Guide from 1962 to 2010 (The Iguanas, The Prime Movers, The Stooges, Iggy and The Stooges, Iggy Pop solo) - DEMOS, UNRELEASED, SOUNDTRACKS, COVERS, CONTRIBUTIONS, SONGS RELEASED ON THE OFFICIAL STUDIO ALBUMS 1969-2009...
You can see it on my page:
http://free-zg.t-com.hr/JesusLovesTheStooges/SONGS.htm#

Since I have audio or video recording of all these songs, this list should be correct.
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PostSubject: Re: How about a Stooges Song Guide?   Tue Feb 08, 2011 7:42 pm

Wow! What a huge library of stuff. Lucky you! Great web reource too, thanks for sharing.

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PostSubject: Re: How about a Stooges Song Guide?   Tue Feb 08, 2011 11:55 pm

Yeah! Great stuff! Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: How about a Stooges Song Guide?   Thu Feb 10, 2011 6:28 am

G, F#, E wrote:
If you type "Stooges discography" into Wikipedia you get a pretty complete list of songs and their working titles. Not their availability on bootlegs etc though.

EDIT: My mistake it's been deleted, I made a pretty complete list of commonly confused songs and alternate titles but its gone.
If you go to "History" on the top right corner of any wiki page (in this case the one you're talking about) and then click what date you edited the page on, it'll show you how the page would have appeared on the date (i.e. with your list)

I hope this helps and/or works.
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PostSubject: Re: How about a Stooges Song Guide?   Sat Feb 12, 2011 12:21 am

I suppose this is your work, G, F#, E. Great!

1969

* Asthma Attack
* Dance Of Romance (earlier version of The Stooges' Ann)

1970

* Lost in the Future
* (Slide) Slidin' The Blues

1971

* Big Time Bum a.k.a. See Me Dancing a.k.a. Nigger Man
* Dead Body a.k.a. Who Do You Love?
* Do You Want My Love? a.k.a That's What I Like
* Fresh Rag a.k.a. I Need You
* I Got A Right
* Ron's Jam (without Iggy Pop or James Williamson)
* What You Gonna Do? (without Iggy Pop or James Williamson)
* You Don't Want My Name a.k.a. Adolescent Nightmare

1972

* Doojiman
* Gimme Some Skin
* Hard to Beat (earlier version of Raw Power's Your Pretty Face Is Going to Hell)
* Hey Peter
* I Got A Right
* I'm Hungry ♦ (earlier version of Raw Power's Penetration)
* I'm Sick of You
* Louie, Louie
* Money
* Scene Of The Crime
* Tight Pants (earlier version of Raw Power's Shake Appeal)

1973

* Born in a Trailer a.k.a. I Come from Nowhere
* Can't Turn You Loose (a version of Raw Power's Your Pretty Face Is Going to Hell)
* Cock in My Pocket
* Cry For Me a.k.a. Pin Point Eyes
* Head On
* Heavy Liquid a.k.a. New Orleans
* Hey Baby
* How It Hurts (earlier version of Rubber Legs)
* I Got Nothin' a.k.a. I Got Shit
* Jesus Loves The Stooges
* Johanna
* My Girl Hates My Heroin (earlier version of Wild Love)
* Open Up And Bleed
* Rich Bitch
* Rubber Legs
* She Creatures of Hollywood Hills
* Sweet Child I Like The Way You Walk (a version of Raw Power's I Need Somebody)
* Till The End of the Night a.k.a. Emotional Problems
* Wet My Bed
* Wild Love

2005

* Mindroom


There have also been songs confirmed by band members and journalists that have never been released, these are:


1967

* The Razor's Edge

1968

* Good Bye Bozos
* Piss In Your Face
* Secret Storm
* Spiders

1969

* I'm Sick

1970

* On The Beach (earlier version of Fun House's Down On The Street)
* Way Down In Egypt (earlier version of Big Time Bum)

2008

* God Is Dead

2009

* Pain In The Ass
* Tribute to Ron
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PostSubject: Re: How about a Stooges Song Guide?   Sun Feb 13, 2011 2:51 am

951Sib wrote:
I suppose this is your work, G, F#, E. Great!

1969

* Asthma Attack
* Dance Of Romance (earlier version of The Stooges' Ann)

1970

* Lost in the Future
* (Slide) Slidin' The Blues

1971

* Big Time Bum a.k.a. See Me Dancing a.k.a. Nigger Man
* Dead Body a.k.a. Who Do You Love?
* Do You Want My Love? a.k.a That's What I Like
* Fresh Rag a.k.a. I Need You
* I Got A Right
* Ron's Jam (without Iggy Pop or James Williamson)
* What You Gonna Do? (without Iggy Pop or James Williamson)
* You Don't Want My Name a.k.a. Adolescent Nightmare

1972

* Doojiman
* Gimme Some Skin
* Hard to Beat (earlier version of Raw Power's Your Pretty Face Is Going to Hell)
* Hey Peter
* I Got A Right
* I'm Hungry ♦ (earlier version of Raw Power's Penetration)
* I'm Sick of You
* Louie, Louie
* Money
* Scene Of The Crime
* Tight Pants (earlier version of Raw Power's Shake Appeal)

1973

* Born in a Trailer a.k.a. I Come from Nowhere
* Can't Turn You Loose (a version of Raw Power's Your Pretty Face Is Going to Hell)
* Cock in My Pocket
* Cry For Me a.k.a. Pin Point Eyes
* Head On
* Heavy Liquid a.k.a. New Orleans
* Hey Baby
* How It Hurts (earlier version of Rubber Legs)
* I Got Nothin' a.k.a. I Got Shit
* Jesus Loves The Stooges
* Johanna
* My Girl Hates My Heroin (earlier version of Wild Love)
* Open Up And Bleed
* Rich Bitch
* Rubber Legs
* She Creatures of Hollywood Hills
* Sweet Child I Like The Way You Walk (a version of Raw Power's I Need Somebody)
* Till The End of the Night a.k.a. Emotional Problems
* Wet My Bed
* Wild Love

2005

* Mindroom


There have also been songs confirmed by band members and journalists that have never been released, these are:


1967

* The Razor's Edge

1968

* Good Bye Bozos
* Piss In Your Face
* Secret Storm
* Spiders

1969

* I'm Sick

1970

* On The Beach (earlier version of Fun House's Down On The Street)
* Way Down In Egypt (earlier version of Big Time Bum)

2008

* God Is Dead

2009

* Pain In The Ass
* Tribute to Ron
Great indeed. Who was the fuck that took it all down from Wikipedia is the question.

Also, if I had access to all those unreleased songs in some way or form and if they were in circulation, or properly released on later expanded rereleases with fabulous quality..... then I would die happily. Smile Cool
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PostSubject: Re: How about a Stooges Song Guide?   Sun Feb 13, 2011 12:43 pm

951Sib wrote:

There have also been songs confirmed by band members and journalists that have never been released...
Do you think any of those early songs were actually recorded? It would be amazing if they were on tape somewhere, and if they would ever be actually released by whoever has them. I can't believe there wouldn't be a huge market for them, now especially. To hear something from 67 or 68 would be incredibly amazing.
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PostSubject: Re: How about a Stooges Song Guide?   Tue Feb 15, 2011 1:35 am

woody wrote:
951Sib wrote:

There have also been songs confirmed by band members and journalists that have never been released...
Do you think any of those early songs were actually recorded? It would be amazing if they were on tape somewhere, and if they would ever be actually released by whoever has them. I can't believe there wouldn't be a huge market for them, now especially. To hear something from 67 or 68 would be incredibly amazing.
I agree! It would be so amazing to hear those recordings. I would like that a lot if they released that material.
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PostSubject: Re: How about a Stooges Song Guide?   Wed Feb 16, 2011 4:48 am

951Sib wrote:

* Can't Turn You Loose (a version of Raw Power's Your Pretty Face Is Going to Hell)

The version on the Heavy Liquid boxset sounds to me like it's a rough run through of the Otis Redding song. Can't really hear 'Pretty Face' in there. Is there another version floating about?
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PostSubject: Re: How about a Stooges Song Guide?   Wed Jun 08, 2011 10:36 pm

I've been reading this Iggy Pop biography "Open up and bleed" by Paul Trynka. Very interesting reading. I found out some information about the early songs.

"The Razor's Edge" was a 45 minute instrumental epic played by Scott on drums. Just in the beginning of Psychadelic Stooges when they still was experimenting with different line-ups.

When they played at Unicersity of Michigan in Dearborn, a couple got up to leave and were confronted by Iggy. And Iggy started to haranguing them, getting right in their face - wich resolved into the song called "Goodbye Bozos".

Quote from the book Open up and bleed:
"Elektra founder Jac Holzman and Vice President Bill Harvey saw both bands for themselves the following weekend at the Fifth Dimension, a hip club built in what had been a bowling alley. According to Jim, in the intervening week he'd become so nervous about the audition that he was bedridden with asthma, hence the Stooges wrote two songs ´specially for that show´: ´I'm Sick´ and ´Asthma Attack´."

Another quote:
"Over the spring of 1969, the Stooges worked on developing enough songs for their ablum. John Cale had agreed to produce the band on the basis that they ´make the record and forget about what's on stage´. For that reason apart from tantalising clues, no true recording remains of early Stooges performances, and those early freeform ´songs´, including ´I'm Sick´, ´Asthma Attack´, ´Goodbye Bozos´ and ´The Dance of Romance´, were abandoned or reworked.

As we know ´The Dance of romance´ would get lyrics and a romantic opening and become the song "Ann".

"Down on the beach/On the beach" was first a love song to Iggys girlfriend Wendy, but was reworked after Wendys departure into "Down on the street".
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PostSubject: Re: How about a Stooges Song Guide?   Thu Jun 09, 2011 9:18 pm

I really would like to have a complete Stooges discography compiled. I have bought the same stuff several times over because there just wasn't any really good info out there. Here is a really good template:

http://www.jazzdisco.org/charlie-parker/discography/

It's pretty straight forward and provides pretty much all the pertinent info, we just need to replace the Bird discography info with Stooges discography info.
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PostSubject: Re: How about a Stooges Song Guide?   Fri Jun 10, 2011 10:11 pm

I am happy to add a Stooges song guide/discography to the forum if someone is willing to compile one. I will give the person credit whoever does it.

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PostSubject: Re: How about a Stooges Song Guide?   Sat Jun 11, 2011 10:10 am

Yes, please, please.
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