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Mammoth

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PostSubject: Stooges' relevance in the modern times   Sat Oct 28, 2017 9:23 pm

Hi, new arrival here. I've been on a Stooges kick for probably years at this point, ever since I discovered their music, and they quickly became my favorite band bar none. I was pleasantly surprised to discover this forum while hunting for bootleg tabs, and even more when I saw how the forum not only has stayed relatively active, but still generates new discussion instead of stagnation. It seems that no matter how far you explore the Stooges, you can never get to the conclusive bottom of their legacy.

I think some of the most fascinating elements regarding the Stooges as a band were the social and political factors that impacted their style, as well as the political and social factors that they were responsible for inspiring (see; the founding of the entire punk genre.)
With regard to that, I would be interested to hear how you might perceive their mentality, behavior, and style with regard to the modern American political and social context.

Obviously, our times are radically different; the Stooges were driven by Vietnam-era fallout and disillusionment, while today we see more with race politics and a controversial administration than post-war nihilism. However, I think there are some similarities in the response and attitude of those affected, and would be interested to hear your take. (note: I do not mean to instigate any political discourse and I apologize if this is perceived as such. I have tried to word the question in a way to avoid offending anyone's sensibilities)

Do you think a group like the Stooges would have a similar impact?
If so, do you think they would succeed or self-destruct like their predecessors?
How would the difference in what is considered acceptable today impact them?
Would a band as controversial as the Stooges be able to keep a spotlight in the public eye, or would they scorned by the public to the point of irrelevance?
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PostSubject: Re: Stooges' relevance in the modern times   Wed Nov 01, 2017 2:18 am

The Stooges are a once in a lifetime band that just so happened to start in the late 60's/early 70's. Like Iggy often reminds people they were largely ignored until fairly recently. I bought the first Stooges album out of the cut-out bin in 1975 for around $1.50. They(and the Velvet Underground) have been the role model for a million bands, most of which have come nowhere near these two. The "music industry" is so different now it is hard to compare then and now with any group really. The Stooges neither sold a lot of records nor played that many shows. Now a band or artist has to tour constantly to make money since record sales are basically nonexistent. Thats why Iggy and the Stones and for Christ sakes Bob Dylan are still doing shows.
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PostSubject: Re: Stooges' relevance in the modern times   Wed Nov 01, 2017 4:05 pm

Hi Mammoth nice to have you here. Whilst obviously a product of their time I don't think the Stooges formation had much to do with the prevailing politics. Dennis Thompson (MC5 Drummer) mentioned that he used to go round to hang out with the Stooges to get away from all the heavy politics going on at the MC5 house. Laziness, apathy and not giving a shit pervade the 1st album, I guess very much influenced by their drug of choice at the time which was probably weed. Their unique sound and unique attitude for the time is what I think makes them the true punk originators. As originators they'll always be relevant and I'm sure a continual influence on all out-there psychedelic rock/punk/indie bands of the future.

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PostSubject: Re: Stooges' relevance in the modern times   Sat Nov 04, 2017 6:08 pm

Welcome onboard Mammoth ,

Yes the Stooges ( like most artists ) felt the social and political vibes of their times and those certainly fueled their music , but they were not a political band by nature...the songs are mostly about anger , boredom , sex...even with the difference in style between Ron A and James W , it's all about trying to reach some sort of musical trance , mandala , cosmic groove , whatever you want to call it...but with a very large sense of danger !

of course they were rebellious and didn't want to " fit " , didn't give a shit for the hippie scene which was hip and could have been an option if you wanted a contract and sell records ; but at the same time they didn't challenge the establishment because they didn't care... ( when the Punks in the UK were mostly about spitting on their institutions )

the magic of The Stooges is how such a crazed rat pack came up with a unique sound , and yes they were largely ignored then , and because they were mostly unorganised / not properly managed quickly fell under the radars....well that's how I see it but I wasn't there so....it could all be wrong !
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