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PostSubject: LIve 1971 And Other Live Rarities   Wed Mar 05, 2008 10:32 pm

I nearly bought this on ebay the other day, but didnt as i have heard the recording is terrible. The winning bid was 3.99.

Is is worth bothering with or is it really THAT bad? Or should i just hold out for the Unganos album?? I have most of the other well known bootlegs (Whiskey '73 etc), but i'm assuming the 1971 album sounds much much worse?
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PostSubject: Re: LIve 1971 And Other Live Rarities   Wed Mar 05, 2008 10:37 pm

Danb...man I wanted to buy it too...arghhhh...such a bummer I (and you) missed it.
if you read the thread 'the perfect stooge gig' mc was just talkin about this. it's definitely worth it (if yr deep into the Stooges) i think..
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PostSubject: Re: LIve 1971 And Other Live Rarities   Wed Mar 05, 2008 10:58 pm

Cheers for the info, hadnt seen that thread (spooky coincedence!!). Think i should have bid on that one. Looks like you and me might be battling it out for the next copy that turns up!
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PostSubject: Re: LIve 1971 And Other Live Rarities   Wed Mar 05, 2008 11:02 pm

yep! Wink
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PostSubject: Re: LIve 1971 And Other Live Rarities   Wed Mar 05, 2008 11:24 pm

4 tracks on it are as good quality as all the 73/74 live stuff (TV Eye, 1970, What's Ya Gonna Do, Rons Jam). The rest are significantly worse but there's something about the performance that means I play it every month at least!
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PostSubject: Re: LIve 1971 And Other Live Rarities   Thu Mar 06, 2008 2:07 am

Definitly definltly worth it!! its another chapter, an unheard one, of stooge history, the sound is completely different to before the extra guiutar, and influence of williamson really add to it, its typical stooges tho, you can break them down, the stuff they played in 68 is different to 69, and 69 to 70 and 70 to 71 and 71 to 72 and 72 to 73/74 they change every year, no other band does that!! lol, but to hear those songs, like whats you gonna do and see me dancing you just hve to buy it, try and work around the poor quality and you'll find a treasure trove, its brilliant material
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PostSubject: Re: LIve 1971 And Other Live Rarities   Thu Mar 06, 2008 1:39 pm

HJW and MC i'm convinced...wow.. annoying that we can't find and buy the cd! and have to wait till somebody drops it on the net...and then have to fight who's who's gonna get it: The piteous destiny of a Stooges freak geek
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PostSubject: Re: LIve 1971 And Other Live Rarities   Thu Mar 06, 2008 2:01 pm

dan b wrote:
I nearly bought this on ebay the other day, but didnt as i have heard the recording is terrible. The winning bid was 3.99.

Is is worth bothering with or is it really THAT bad? Or should i just hold out for the Unganos album?? I have most of the other well known bootlegs (Whiskey '73 etc), but i'm assuming the 1971 album sounds much much worse?

Hey dude - it was me who bought that record! Smile I did it through my dad's username, Steinberg09, as you could see Smile I also heard about the quality, but still I am kinda fanatic when it comes to Stooges rarities Smile The total cost is 6 pounds cuz it also includes 2 pound mail service or whatever Smile
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PostSubject: Re: LIve 1971 And Other Live Rarities   Thu Mar 06, 2008 4:11 pm

Give us your full review when you get it mate
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PostSubject: Re: LIve 1971 And Other Live Rarities   Fri Mar 07, 2008 9:01 pm

mc wrote:
4 tracks on it are as good quality as all the 73/74 live stuff (TV Eye, 1970, What's Ya Gonna Do, Rons Jam). The rest are significantly worse but there's something about the performance that means I play it every m
A shame that What's You Gonna Do and ROns Jam feature an Iggy impersonator, not Iggy himself, though!
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PostSubject: Re: LIve 1971 And Other Live Rarities   Fri Mar 07, 2008 9:09 pm

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A shame that What's You Gonna Do and ROns Jam feature an Iggy impersonator, not Iggy himself, though!

That sucks!
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PostSubject: Re: LIve 1971 And Other Live Rarities   Fri Mar 07, 2008 9:24 pm

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That sucks!

if ya don't like it?
you can sell it to me cheers
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PostSubject: Re: LIve 1971 And Other Live Rarities   Fri Mar 07, 2008 10:02 pm

the song are good but some tracks sound very very bad

i like ron's jam
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PostSubject: Re: LIve 1971 And Other Live Rarities   Fri Mar 07, 2008 11:26 pm

ZinZin wrote:
JamesWilliamson82 wrote:
That sucks!

if ya don't like it?
you can sell it to me cheers

No, no - I meant that Iggy's impersonator ZZ Smile I will get the cd in a week or two Smile
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PostSubject: Re: LIve 1971 And Other Live Rarities   Sat Mar 08, 2008 12:28 am

the price that sold for is pretty cheap. i remember it used to go for a good chunk of money a few years ago. i was lucky enough to find a copy, still shrink-wrapped for $10 at mad platters in west chester, pa.
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PostSubject: Re: LIve 1971 And Other Live Rarities   Sat Mar 08, 2008 1:21 am

Iggy's impersonator actually sounds very convincing - I assumed it was iggy for the past 10 years!
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PostSubject: Re: LIve 1971 And Other Live Rarities   Sat Mar 08, 2008 1:28 am

Aye same here mc, thoght it was iggy, its a guy called Steve(n) Richards isnt it?
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PostSubject: Re: LIve 1971 And Other Live Rarities   Sat Mar 08, 2008 8:46 pm

I managed to hear the 71 Rarities bounce
thanks Soldier!
THIS STUFF IS GREAT!!! cheers

Iggy's voice in those days was sharp. razing. you could hear his craze. so dynamic.
The impersonator is more shouting!
Iggy singing I need you - there you hear the difference well if you compare these both songs.
Would be something..to see this Steve(n) guy performing! he's sounds pretty good.

the bass is super on this recording


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PostSubject: Re: LIve 1971 And Other Live Rarities   Sat Mar 08, 2008 11:21 pm

I Need You = Fresh Rag
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PostSubject: Re: LIve 1971 And Other Live Rarities   Sun Mar 09, 2008 5:28 am

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I Need You = Fresh Rag

Yeah, in another post concerning the St.Kiel gig 'I Need You' is also 'Fresh Rag' - wonder why it's like that huh Smile
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PostSubject: Re: LIve 1971 And Other Live Rarities   Sun Mar 09, 2008 6:09 pm

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JESUS_LOVES_THE_STOOGES wrote:
I Need You = Fresh Rag

Yeah, in another post concerning the St.Kiel gig 'I Need You' is also 'Fresh Rag' - wonder why it's like that huh Smile


Its probably cos iggy just made up the lyrics right on the spot, well mostly, i think he said he used to come up with a phrase for the title - often while smokin something - then he would just improvise the lyrics with somethin to do with that title on the nite, so cool, never heard of anyone else ever doin that, but yeh it probably started out as i need oyu and eventually just turned into fresh rag because he couldnt remember the lyrics, lol
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PostSubject: Re: LIve 1971 And Other Live Rarities   Sun Mar 09, 2008 6:28 pm

ahh I see - I never knew about that - thanks Smile
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PostSubject: Re: LIve 1971 And Other Live Rarities   Tue Apr 01, 2008 5:36 pm

I've just listened to the 1971 bootleg that arrived today Very Happy First of all, I'd like to say that..yes..the quality is bad..but -> I've heard bootlegs with a shittier sound than this one..if you can believe Smile In other words, I will quote what GG Allin said: if you want perfection, go and listen to others' records Smile This is a bootleg recording and despite that quality sucks or not - it's never desired ha ha..Smile It may sound foolish, but...I am very grateful to the guy who recorded that gig Smile Generally all of the tracks are AWESOME..it is true that you won't hear what Iggy's singing...however I am really happy to hear that stuff Very Happy I only think 'Who do you love?' is their own version of Bo Diddley's song..because it doesn't sound like Bo's song at all Smile

Well, that's what I got to say about the cd..I would like also to thank ZinZin for giving me her opinion of this gig Smile Cheers!
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PostSubject: Re: LIve 1971 And Other Live Rarities   Tue Apr 01, 2008 6:36 pm

was my pleasure JW82.
Great you're enjoying it!
yeah...awesome stuff indeed!
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PostSubject: Re: LIve 1971 And Other Live Rarities   Tue Apr 01, 2008 7:29 pm

ZinZin wrote:
awesome stuff indeed!

Yeah Very Happy 'Fresh Rag' sounds as if Sex Pistols remade it for 'Seventeen' or 'E.M.I.' and 'See Me Dancing' gives me that Motorhead vibe Smile I remember also James saying that with solos it depended on a song..but I can hear Ron soloing only at the beginning of 'Who Do You Love'. Overall, songs are very interesting Smile
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